Democracy Sausage Episode: Talking tough or scapegoating

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Tuesday 18 March 2025

Migration expert Alan Gamlen joins Democracy Sausage to unpack the arguments and misconceptions around immigration. 

What is it about immigration that makes voters so anxious?  

What are the misconceptions we have about migration? 

And with Peter Dutton mulling over a referendum to give ministers the power the ability to strip dual nationals of citizenship will migration be a key issue in the upcoming election? 

On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Professor Alan Gamlen joins Professor Mark Kenny to discuss the politicisation of migration and what it means for this election.  

Listen here: AcastApple PodcastsSpotify.

Alan Gamlen is the Director of the Migration Hub at the ANU School of Regulation and Global Governance.     

Mark Kenny is the Director of the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the University after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times

Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple PodcastsSpotifyPocket Casts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

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