Democracy Sausage Episode: Permanent unpredictability with Jim Chalmers

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Wednesday 18 June 2025

Treasurer Jim Chalmers joins Mark Kenny to talk our changing economic environment, productivity and ‘progressive patriotism’.

Amid the unpredictability of the current economic environment, how can Australia benefit from global change? 

What is the government planning to do to ensure productivity roundtables are actually productive? 

And how can we meet the challenge of decarbonising our economy? 

On this episode of Democracy Sausage, Dr Jim Chalmers joins Professor Mark Kenny to talk about how to best position Australia’s economy for the future.  

Listen here: AcastApple PodcastsSpotify.

Hon Dr Jim Chalmers is the Treasurer and the Member for Rankin. 

Mark Kenny is the Director of the ANU Australian Studies Institute. He came to the University after a high-profile journalistic career including six years as chief political correspondent and national affairs editor for The Sydney Morning Herald, The Age and The Canberra Times

Democracy Sausage with Mark Kenny is available on Apple PodcastsSpotifyPocket Casts or wherever you get your podcasts.

We’d love to hear your feedback on this series, so send in your questions, comments or suggestions for future episodes to democracysausage@anu.edu.au.

This podcast is produced by The Australian National University.

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